Mystery Friday Foto #35 Solved: Bert Dingley taking the Hicksville Turn in a Pope-Hartford at the 1910 Vanderbilt Cup Race
The Walter McCarthy archives again challenged you with another unpublished race photo.
Answer to the Mystery Foto questions;
- Identify the racer, driver and race
Bert Dingley was driving the #22 Pope-Hartford with mechanician C.F. Osgood during the 1910 Vanderbilt Cup Race.
- Location and orientation of the photographer
Dingley has just turned from Broadway onto Old Country Road in Hicksville. The photographer was looking south. The clue is the Monogram Oil sign placed at the turn on both the north and south sides of Old Country Road.
- The date of the foto. Provide a rationale
October 1, 1910, Dingley's #22 Pope-Hartford in 1910 was the only #22 ever to compete in the Vanderbilt Cup Races.
- Kudos: Outcome of the race for the racer and driver
Dingley finished 10th, completing 22 laps with an average speed of 59.9 mph..
Comments (7)
Congrats to Dick Gorman, John Cunningham, David Miller, frank Femenias, Ken Parrotte, Steve Lucas, and Art Kleiner for identifying Bet Dingley in the Pope-Hartford.
Kudos to David Miller and Frank Femenias for recognizing the Hicksville Turn
Enjoy!
Howard Kroplick
Close-Ups
The Hicksville Turn
Comments
Mystery Foto #35… The race car is the #22 Pope Hartford driven by Bert Dingley in the 1910 Vanderbilt Cup race. The date, October 1, 1910. As for the outcome for the car and driver, they finished 10th, completing 22 laps at an average speed of 59.90 mph
Identify the racer, driver and race - Bert Dingley, CF Osgood, 1910 Vanderbilt Cup
Location and orientation of the photographer - Westbury turn at Old Country Road and Elliston Road. photographer is facing north
The date of the foto. Provide a rationale - October 1, 1910, the date of the race
Kudos: Outcome of the race for the racer and driver - Finished 10th
The vehicle is a Pope-Hartford driven by Bert Dingley in the 1910 Vanderbilt cup race held on October 1st. This looks like the intersection of Broadway and Old Country rd in Hicksville. The driver appears to be completing a left turn from Broadway to go west onto Old Country rd. So the photographer is pretty much facing south. Bert Dingley finished the race in 10th place after completing 22 laps.
1910 Vanderbilt Cup Race (278 mi) on Oct 1, 1910, the last Vanderbilt Cup Race held on Long Island utilizing both Motor Parkway and Long Island public roadways.
Pope-Hartford racer driven by Bert Dingley (photo below), Mechanician: C.F. Osgood, both completed 22 laps averaging 59.9 mph. They finished in 10th place.
The 1910 VCR course ran counter-clockwise throughout Long Island. The left turn in the photo was on Nassau County roads, away from Motor Parkway scenario.
Two possibilities but I suspect the turn occurred from S Broadway (Rt 107) northbound onto Old Country Rd westbound.
BTW, the photographer was looking south
Great website for Motor Parkway history!
Looking forward towards this week’s answers
Bert Dingley, #22 Pope Hartford
Outside Westbury Turn
October 1, 1910 Vanderbilt Cup
10th place in the last Vanderbilt Cup race held on Long Island
I believe that’s Bert Dingley driving in the #22 Pope-Hartford during the 1910 Vanderbilt Cup Race with C. F. Osgood as his mechanician. It looks like they have just turned left from Old Country Road at Ellison Avenue in Westbury with the photographer facing east. If I’m correct about the race, then the date must be October 1, 1910. Dingley finished 10th. that day.
Pope Hartford, Bert Dingley, 1910 Vanderbilt Cup Race
Westbury Old Country Road Turn onto Ellison Avenue, looking east
October 1, 1910 - date of the race
Dingley and the car finished 10 after completing 22 laps.
Stopped by the turn this afternoon. Difficult to spot the changes, but it has changed slightly.
Greg - Great “after” shot of the 1910 intersection. Nah, I don’t see any significant changes through the years, except that everything has been transformed here! :D
Greg O. There was a major change at that intersection the day before you snapped your photo. The wooden utility poles were replaced by those made of metal.